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Aemony (talkcontribs)

Hi,

Please familiarize yourself with the PCGamingWiki:Editing_guide/General_information, and note the lack of unofficial sites listed in the rules, and the exclusive focus on official sites.

I've allowed one of the Red Faction wikis to remain because it acts as a convenient hub for the rest of the sites that were removed, so it alone can remain.

As for the Discord server, and other sites, I could find no indication that they were official, hence why they should remain removed. On that note, a random community site proclaiming itself "official" due to the lack of an actual official site/Discord server/whatever, does not make it official.

Br, Aemony

Heyitsduke (talkcontribs)

Hello,

I'm not the original user who was editing the page, but I am from the Faction Files community. I just want to emphasize that no harm was intended and the page is primarily maintained by volunteer members of the Red Faction community.

The Red Faction community has created our own hub due to any and all official infrastructure being defunct or inactive. The series has long been on life support solely from the community (especially the older titles) and has little in the way of any official support. Faction Files functions as the de-facto official Red Faction hub and is the sole maintainer and operator of the Red Faction wiki, as well as support hub for any titles in the series. Faction Files also has a built-in official Dash Faction support channel with the author of the patch, which is required to play Red Faction 1 on most modern systems and is essential for accessing any community created content within the last few years. The author is also a prominent member of the community.

While I understand the guidelines and respect them, and appreciate the wiki link being left intact, Faction Files is the closest thing there is to an official hub for Red Faction, especially since it maintains the Red Faction wiki. Not having those community links on the page is unfortunate for support purposes.

If you would like, you have an open invitation to the community if you'd like to speak to the staff and any community members personally. There is absolutely no hard feelings over here, we just have little choice but to maintain the series on our own as a community.

-Duke

Aemony (talkcontribs)

Hi,

The reason why https://www.redfactionwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page was chosen to remain on the PCGW pages over https://www.factionfiles.com/ff.php?action=forums was simply due to it being the most useful one overall.

The Red Faction Wiki main page features the community Discord server, Faction Files, and even the game-specific FAQs all prominently on the very first page. Meanwhile the Faction Files link goes to an archived forum overview with the latest posts from years ago. Not even the root of the Faction Files website, https://www.factionfiles.com/, is a really good replacement since there's no clear intent or path "forward" from there.

We generally do not allow invite links for unofficial Discord servers for various reasons too long to go into here, so that link isn't really up for debate.

Ergo, the Red Faction Wiki main page that was allowed to remain was the best option as it achieves multiple purposes:

✓ It features game-specific FAQs on the first page.

✓ It acts as a convenient hub for the remaining removed links as it features them quite prominently (except the Wikia link, I guess)

✓ It doesn't put any additional requirement on the user to access information (e.g. a Discord account).

Br, Aemony

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