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Hungry eyes (talkcontribs)
Anonymous (talkcontribs)

Yes, but the same would then apply to Desura - Desura does not implement any kind of DRM, and many of the games on Desura can be copied out and played without using the client.

Regarding my note about Steam, I meant that some games do not use the verification and can be played outside of Steam as well, one such being Steel-Storm.

Hungry eyes (talkcontribs)

Ok. So with Desura, seeing as you have said Desura itself does not tie your gamesto your Desura account, list it using the DRM-free symbol if there is no other form of DRM (e.g. SecuROM), and with the Retail symbol if there is other DRM; listing the specific DRM in the notes section.

With Steam, seeing as 90% of games are tied to your steam account and all games are designed to be tied to an account, it makes the most sense to list them as unlocking on Steam, then providing an explanation that the games can be played outside of Steam and how to do so within the article.

What do you think?

Anonymous (talkcontribs)

But then this would mean that icons such as GOG would also be completely obsolete - all GOG games do not have any DRM after all, or in the few cases use some of the weird mechanics that were impossible to remove.

Hungry eyes (talkcontribs)

Yeah I don't really get why the gog symbol is used - its just confusing.

Hungry eyes (talkcontribs)

If a specific game utilises its own system of DRM (e.g. SecuROM etc) then that should be noted in the relevant section of the table: e.g. 'All versions of Spore use the SecuROM DRM system', but this doesn't mean it is 'unlocked' on a specific store, and it should therefore use the "Retail" icon.

If there is no DRM, the DRM-free icon is used.

I have not used Desura before, but if games released on that platform are tied to a Desura account then they should use the Desura store icon. If games are DRM-free upon download, they should not use the Desura icon - the icon is therefore redundant.

Anonymous (talkcontribs)

Desura does not have its own DRM-free specific system, but it does have any account system from which you can download the games. Most of those do not use any DRM, and if they do, those are specific implementations created by the developer. The same thing is with the USC - I have an account and games, which can only be downloaded by that account. But if I wanted to, I can just copy most of the games and they will work on any Linux machine regardless of whether USC is installed.

Andytizer (talkcontribs)

The reasoning behind the 'unlock' column (rather than calling it a DRM column) is to provide information about which 'account'-based systems the game unlocks on.

GOG.com games should tick both the GOG.com icon AND the DRM-free icon. Desura games should do both as well. It sounds like USC should tick both of these too.

At some point we will overhaul the current icon system to use 16x16 (or 32x32) favicons instead - this will make it easier to create new accounts and to keep up to date with company's logos. Also the templates are a bit of a mess..

Anonymous (talkcontribs)

Ok, I'll keep that in mind. I followed the sample article and it only used one in those cases (as do most here), so I assumed it should in that way. I'll change it then.

Andytizer (talkcontribs)

Thanks, I'll try to get around to sorting out the distributors/availability table etc soon, it's high up on my to-do list.

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