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Thread titleRepliesLast modified
Reference in fix box500:09, 17 October 2017
Small inconsistency between Sample Page's (and Template:Infobox game) and Editing Guide's infobox122:15, 13 October 2015
When to add dots415:29, 20 June 2015
VR Template216:51, 8 June 2015
==Network==106:56, 9 March 2014
Windowed vs Borderless fullscreen windowed000:58, 15 September 2013
Spacing in audio settings and removal of underscores003:46, 29 July 2013
General Information section119:53, 23 July 2013
Broken/Wrong link112:32, 4 July 2013
Mouse Acceleration100:58, 25 April 2013
"Save game cloud syncing"023:32, 23 March 2013
Two problems I've found113:30, 25 February 2013
Input settings "See Controller support" link has wrong target119:05, 26 December 2012
Icon overload018:10, 30 October 2012
Availability011:24, 14 October 2012

Reference in fix box

Can someone please change the fix box template in the sample article to something like this:

{{Fixbox|1=
{{Fixbox/fix|Description|ref=<ref>[link]</ref>}}
[...]

It really would help for newcomers. (It took me a long time to figure this out...)

Fwinest JediThug (talk)10:43, 14 September 2013

Done.

Soebtalk|contribs11:33, 14 September 2013

Should we use it in the actual sample as well? Just link to a random Steam Community post or something?

Nicereddy (talk)22:26, 14 September 2013
 

Thank you!

Fwinest JediThug (talk)14:56, 15 September 2013
 

Garrbot is changing "Description" to "Instructions". This probably should be updated in the sample article as well.

Sigma 7 (talk)21:28, 12 October 2017

Description is a place holder; this should be replaced with something meaningful when writing a fixbox.

Garrett (talk)00:09, 17 October 2017
 
 

Small inconsistency between Sample Page's (and Template:Infobox game) and Editing Guide's infobox

There's a small inconsistency between the two: "wikipedia" and "winehq" are swapped. It's also worth mentioning that sample page lacks the "steam appid side" field (which isn't said being "optional" in template's and syntax guide).

While we're at it, template's syntax guide lacks winporter developer attribute :)

EDIT: Also, the square enix cloud syncying option is missing in cloud save table.

Faalagorn /16:35, 6 October 2015

Omission of Square Enix cloud was deliberate (it is only used for a couple of games). The other things you mentioned have been corrected.

Garrett (talk)22:15, 13 October 2015
 

When to add dots

I often find myself having issues with dots writing articles, some people for example put a dot after every key point, other people don't even add a dot after the key points.

When do you add a dot?

Hawaii Beach (talk)13:33, 20 June 2015

Always. Tables, key points, everywhere.

It's only proper, and actually correct. And if not, that's the policy in place at the moment.

Soeb talk|contribs15:08, 20 June 2015
 

Periods (not "dots") are only included in a Key point if it contains multiple sentences, and even then, they are not added at the end of the final sentence.

A simpler explanation: Don't use periods to end a Key point, only to separate multiple sentences.

If you need further help editing the wiki, check out the Editing Guide.

ThatOneReaper (talk)15:22, 20 June 2015

That's completely counter intuitive. I'd rather add them everywhere, the only place where I don't add dots is if there's a sentence ending with a code tag. So that I won't end up copying the dot accidentaly while copying what's inside the tag.

RaTcHeT302 (talk)15:28, 20 June 2015
 

Um, yes they are :)

This is not a bulleted list in a proper sense (in which case we'd have semicolons as well). Periods go at the end of a key point. Not general information, but most definitely key points.

Soeb talk|contribs15:29, 20 June 2015
 
 

VR Template

The VR Template is included at the bottom of the page, but not in the code section at the top.

==VR support==
{{VR support
|gg3d name                   = 
|native 3d gg3d award        = 
|nvidia 3d vision gg3d award = 
|tridef 3d gg3d award        = 
|iz3d gg3d award             = 
|native 3d                   = 
|native 3d notes             = 
|nvidia 3d vision            = 
|nvidia 3d vision notes      = 
|tridef 3d                   = 
|tridef 3d notes             = 
|iz3d                        = 
|iz3d notes                  = 
|3rd space gaming vest       = 
|3rd space gaming vest notes = 
|creative senz3d             = 
|creative senz3d notes       = 
|leap motion controller      = 
|leap motion controller notes= 
|novint falcon               = 
|novint falcon notes         = 
|oculus rift                 = 
|oculus rift notes           = 
|razer hydra                 = 
|razer hydra notes           = 
|trackir                     = 
|trackir notes               = 
}}
Pilzsuppe (talk)05:26, 8 June 2015

Hi, thanks for pointing this out - however, this was a conscious decision, as most game pages, at least at the moment, do not need to have the section, and there's no reason to add the section unless someone is ready to fill in at least some of the details.

Note that you can add this with one click in the editor to any page, as well as many other common templates, without needing to copy it over.

Soeb talk|contribs15:30, 8 June 2015

Alright, thanks for the reply.

Pilzsuppe (talk)16:51, 8 June 2015
 
 

==Network==

Page needs new content added:

==Network==
{{Network/Multiplayer
|local play           = 
|local play players   = 
|local play notes     = 
|lan play             = 
|lan play players     = 
|lan play notes       = 
|online play          = 
|online play players  = 
|online play notes    = 
|local co-op          = 
|local co-op players  = 
|local co-op notes    = 
|lan co-op            = 
|lan co-op players    = 
|lan co-op notes      = 
|online co-op         = 
|online co-op players = 
|online co-op notes   = 
|hot-seat             = 
|hot-seat players     = 
|hot-seat notes       = 
|asynchronous         = 
|asynchronous notes   = 
}}

{{Network/Connections
|matchmaking        = 
|matchmaking notes  = 
|p2p                = 
|p2p notes          = 
|dedicated          = 
|dedicated notes    = 
|self-hosting       = 
|self-hosting notes = 
}}

{{Network/Ports
|tcp  = 
|udp  = 
|upnp = 
}}
Sigma 7 (talk)06:41, 9 March 2014

Well ballucks, I'm really sorry we forgot about this. I'll add the Localizations template in as well.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, we very badly need to update the sample article.

Nicereddy (talk)06:56, 9 March 2014
 

Windowed vs Borderless fullscreen windowed

Under Video Settings both Windowed and Borderless fullscreen windowed links (on the left side) point to Borderless fullscreen windowed page.

Quaixor (talk)00:58, 15 September 2013

Spacing in audio settings and removal of underscores

Should we remove underscores and add spacing to all the settings templates to create a uniform page?

Nicereddy (talk)03:46, 29 July 2013

General Information section

I've never seen this actually used in a page, should it be removed? And if it is, should we move Console Commands to Improvements?

Nicereddy (talk)19:34, 23 July 2013

Console commands can be long, so it's best to put them at the end of the article so it's quick and easy to get to the most important sections like video settings.

Pridit (talk)19:53, 23 July 2013
 

Broken/Wrong link

This part:

*Code sections can be copied using the <span class="plainlinks">[http://pcgamingwiki.com/index.php?title=PCGamingWiki:Sample_Article&ction=edit edit link for this page]</span>. 

The link contains &ction=edit which I guess should be &action=edit. Someone please correct this, I can't because the page is protected.

Axper (talk)12:18, 4 July 2013

Thanks and done.

Soebtalk|contribs12:32, 4 July 2013
 

Mouse Acceleration

This question is about editing pages. What does acceleration_option=true mean? Because every time, I add a table I wonder - if this means, that the game has an option for mouse acceleration or that it means - it has mouse acceleration (as in - it's enabled). I'm guessing it's about an option for mouse acceleration in options, but I'd be nice if someone could confirm that.

If so - if a game has mouse acceleration disabled by default and doesn't have an option - this would be false, unless acceleration can be enabled by editing ini, in which case it would be hackable. If a game has mouse acceleration enabled by default and doesn't have an option - this would be false, as well - and the rest goes into notes, am I correct?

Suicide machine (talk)00:42, 25 April 2013

This is correct. If it's unchangable it'd be false, however make a note that it's enabled by default when it is.

Mouse sensitivity, invert mouse, etc. are not considered mouse acceleration. Those are different things.

Nicereddy (talk)00:58, 25 April 2013
 

"Save game cloud syncing"

Can we add this to the cheat sheet? It's in the article, but not up-top.

===[[Save game cloud syncing]]===
{{Save Game Cloud Syncing|
{{Save Game Cloud Syncing/row| [[Steam Cloud]] | false |  }}
{{Save Game Cloud Syncing/row| [[Origin]] | True | Syncs save games and settings. }}
{{Save Game Cloud Syncing/row| [[GameSave Manager]] | hackable | In the database. }}
}}
Rct3guy (talk)23:32, 23 March 2013

Two problems I've found

  1. According to the official Wikipedia rules (not that those are necessarily important here, simply a good guideline) there should NEVER be headers to sections that use only a single =. These are reserved for the title of the article. I believe that the Windows, Mac, and Linux headings should be switched to "==" so it's a smaller size.
  2. I also wanted to suggest that System Requirements be combined into one section at the bottom of the page for all OS'. I don't find it necessary to separate them into their own categories.
  3. The code template should include a Mac (and possibly Linux) section so we know what to separate between them. It's a bit confusing currently as to what is separated by OS when there's only a single OS listed.
Nicereddy (talk)23:55, 19 February 2013

Thanks,

1) h1 headers to denote OS were implemented to make it easier to convert a page from single OS to multiple OS. If you have the time to change every header level, we can do this.

2) System Requirements move is discussed here: http://forums.pcgamingwiki.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=85

3) My original vision for each page was to have each OS under a different heading, with every subsection repeated (different Video Settings, Game Data, tables etc.) but there has been push from other editors to combine the tables together. I don't know what the 'ideal' situation would be. There are 3 options:

a) Each OS with repeated tables

b) Subpages (e.g. Team Fortress 2 (Windows), Team Fortress 2 (Mac), Team Fortress 2 (Linux))

c) Combined information, e.g. Game data with 3 rows for each OS.

Explored in this thread: http://forums.pcgamingwiki.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=107

Andytizer - oppa13:30, 25 February 2013
 

Input settings "See Controller support" link has wrong target

The Input settings text provided links to a section titled Controller, but the section title suggested below it is Controller support; anyone copying this part of the sample into a page will end up with a link that doesn't work.

Garrett (talk)09:51, 25 December 2012

Thanks I redirected everything to Controller.

Our 'guides' to non-game stuff like hardware, controllers and things like graphics terms are very underdeveloped. I'm hoping to put some serious time in to get them up to a good standard. If you have any input, please voice them in our new forum.

Andytizer (talk)19:05, 26 December 2012
 

Icon overload

This instruction makes no sense to me: "Virtually all sentences in all game fix pages should use these codes". No one follows it because it would be a mess of icon overload, and I'd say it's used too much ever now. Can someone explain the rational behind this?

Valgrind (talk)18:10, 30 October 2012

Availability

Why do both ID|Steam and Distributor|Steam exist? What's the difference between the apart from the tag? I noticed Amazon is missing in ID but exists in Distributor which is why I've opted for the latter in Far Cry 3 since it has the correct image and I can't modify templates.

Pridit (talk)11:24, 14 October 2012