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Disadvantage WARNING: Games for Windows Live multiplayer is shutting down on July 1, 2014.[5] This will make some GFWL games or sections of games unplayable.

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Motoki (talkcontribs)

Regarding the statement that Games for Windows Live multiplayer is shutting down, this has not been confirmed directly by Microsoft and should be taken as speculation until and unless it is. The statement that is the basis for this briefly appeared on the Age of Empires Online page before it was taken down, however we do not know the reasons why it was taken down. It could have been erroneous. Microsoft could have changed their minds. We don't know.

It may yet be shut down in July 2014 but presenting that as fact based on a screenshot of something posted on a single game's web site that was quickly removed is really shaky ground.

Additionally, I feel as though it's poor form that the source being cited is PCGamingwiki. I realize that is partially because the quote in question was removed, however a site citing itself as a source is circular logic and I don't think that's something that should ever be done.

Nicereddy (talkcontribs)

It should be clearly presented as a rumor, but not removed from the page altogether. It's essentially regarded as fact at this point and Microsoft has yet to make a comment saying it isn't going to happen, which would be logical from a PR standpoint should they have something good to say.

As for your latter comment, I think the self-sourcing is definitely something we may want to talk about. I'm not sure how we should handle that.

Garrett (talkcontribs)

I have replaced the reference with one from PC Gamer. The wording of the section intro could still be clearer, of course, so that's something to look into.