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Would it be possible to bring back BetterSADX for a different purpose than SADX Mod Installer

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AmethystViper (talkcontribs)

I know that SADX Mod Installer is now the de-facto patcher/modding utility for this game and the previous (compatible) PC ports, however, the BetterSADX Steam Guide page also brings up SADX Mod Installer as a suggestion for advanced users or those that want more bleeding edge updates with mods (along with a custom GUI configuration tool that can also remap keys), so I was thinking maybe we could possibly feature BetterSADX for those that want a quicker/easier way to patch and mod Sonic Adventure DX while SADX Mod Installer can also be available for those that want to fine-tune the patching process and get the newer mod updates.

EDIT: Forgot to bring this up as well, but could it be possible to bring back the list of recommended mods as well so that all versions of Sonic Adventure DX can have something to recommend as far as patching the game goes?

SirYodaJedi (talkcontribs)

If it's no longer severely outdated and being actively maintained now, then I guess maybe. I don't see why, though. I'm not convinced that the guided installation of SADX Mod Installer is that much more complicated to understand than a one-click BetterSADX. Seems like a waste of real estate to me 🤷‍♂️


Does the recommended mods list really need to be on every SA1 page? It seems redundant and hard to maintain, especially since basically all of them require "downgrading" to the 2004 port anyway.

AmethystViper (talkcontribs)

Well I was thinking we can link the other version's pages to the 2004 version's recommended mods if it became redundant or difficult to have them listing mods for the different versions available.

And as for SADX Mod Loader, I'm not sure it's how the mods are compiled/setup with it, but I get some weird frame-pacing and frame rate hiccup issues with SADX Mod Loader when using its Dreamcast Conversion preset (yet strangely not for its Enhanced SADX preset) whereas BetterSADX's Dreamcast Conversion preset doesn't give me this problem at all, and I doubt it's my PC since it's more than capable of playing Sonic Adventure DX, vanilla or modded.

EDIT: I think I found what may be the cause of my frame-pacing issues with SADX Mod Installer, it seems to be that crosire's d3d8to9 v1.11.0 some to have some issue with the game where as v1.10.1 that was used in BetterSADX doesn't have this issue. I'll do some further testing to be sure.

Why does this page exist? The so called (2011) version, and the version on steam(Which belongs to Dreamcast Collection) are the same game...

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BONKERS (talkcontribs)

^^^^

Dreamcast collection version, is the version on steam. Game is locked to an internal 640x480 no matter the resolution you set.

RaTcHeT302 (talkcontribs)

The series box is a huge mess, but I have no idea why it was setup this way.

Marioysikax (talkcontribs)

Actually no. If you buy dreamcast collection from retail in disc form or some retailer using their own downloader you will get original Dreamcast Collection version which is named version (2011) as it differs from original 2003 version, released in 2003 (dah!)

Now they updated Steam version of all dreamcast collection games (here's sonics update post), but there's no patch for retail version and no information will the updates reach DRM-free versions on other digital stores. Sonic is still 4:3 but it's definitly larger internal resolution than 640x480. They also updated much more stuff including much better settings and full controller support, also Space Channel 5 now works without double speedup out of the box.

I know the seriesbox is now huge mess especially on Sonics page where there are two of them but I simply don't know how else to do it as now games have two versions where other ones still needs fixes and other ones updated and needing other kind of fixes. They say it's simply patch but because it's so huge patch there still needs to be old articles for those without updates. If they decide to patch other versions it's simple to merge articles, but for now.... :\

We also had conversation about this in my profiles talk: http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/User_talk:Marioysikax#Sonic_Adventure_2473

BONKERS (talkcontribs)

Oh shit, wow I totally missed this. Ok, then that totally makes sense!

I need to re-download the game and then re-test for things that were specific to the old DC version now!~

BONKERS (talkcontribs)

Also: I did end up testing, game does run at native resolution now. Just 4:3, can force AA as long as you are using a 4:3 resolution. Can use TV/GPU scaling to pillarbox

Marioysikax (talkcontribs)

I also did contact Sega Europe support about patching other than steam versions, first response was stating that update is for Steam and asking did I play those games on Steam. After responsing positively and saying I simply wanted information about it answer was redirecting question to right department - and that was 2nd of october...

Mirh (talkcontribs)

TV/GPU scaling is by no means a solution

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