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{{Infobox game
 
{{Infobox game
 
|cover        = Second Sight cover.jpg
 
|cover        = Second Sight cover.jpg
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{{Infobox game/row/developer|Free Radical Design}}
 
{{Infobox game/row/developer|Free Radical Design}}
 
|publishers  =  
 
|publishers  =  
{{Infobox game/row/publisher|Codemasters}}
+
{{Infobox game/row/publisher|Codemasters|Former}}
 +
{{Infobox game/row/publisher|THQ Nordic|Current}}
 
|engines      =  
 
|engines      =  
 
|release dates=  
 
|release dates=  
 
{{Infobox game/row/date|Windows|February 4, 2005}}
 
{{Infobox game/row/date|Windows|February 4, 2005}}
 +
|reception    =
 +
{{Infobox game/row/reception|Metacritic|second-sight|73}}
 +
{{Infobox game/row/reception|OpenCritic|link|rating}}
 +
{{Infobox game/row/reception|IGDB|second-sight|73}}
 +
|taxonomy    =
 +
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/monetization      | One-time game purchase }}
 +
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/microtransactions | }}
 +
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/modes            | Singleplayer }}
 +
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/pacing            | Real-time }}
 +
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/perspectives      | Third-person }}
 +
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/controls          | Direct control }}
 +
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/genres            | Action, Shooter, Stealth, TPS }}
 +
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/sports            | }}
 +
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/vehicles          | }}
 +
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/art styles        | Realistic }}
 +
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/themes            | Contemporary, Europe, North America, Supernatural }}
 +
{{Infobox game/row/taxonomy/series            | }}
 
|steam appid  = 11550
 
|steam appid  = 11550
|gogcom page  = second_sight
+
|steam appid side =
 +
|gogcom id    = 1207658662
 +
|gogcom id side =
 +
|official site=
 +
|hltb        = 8206
 +
|lutris      = second-sight
 +
|igdb        =
 +
|mobygames    = 15025
 +
|strategywiki = Second Sight
 
|wikipedia    = Second Sight (video game)
 
|wikipedia    = Second Sight (video game)
|winehq      =  
+
|winehq      = 2949
 +
|license      = commercial
 
}}
 
}}
  
'''Key points'''
+
{{Introduction
{{--}} No longer sold digitally due to legal issues.<ref>[https://www.gog.com/forum/second_sight/heads_up_tomorrow_we_might_remove_second_sight_from_our_offer HEADS UP: Tomorrow, we might remove Second Sight from our offer. - GOG.com Forum]</ref>
+
|introduction      =
 +
 
 +
|release history  =
 +
 
 +
|current state    =
 +
}}
  
 
'''General information'''
 
'''General information'''
{{GOG.com links|second_sight|second_sight}}
+
{{GOG.com links|1207658662|second_sight}}
{{mm}} [http://steamcommunity.com/app/11550/discussions/ Steam Community Discussions]
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{{mm}} [https://steamcommunity.com/app/11550/discussions/ Steam Community Discussions]
  
 
==Availability==
 
==Availability==
 
{{Availability|
 
{{Availability|
{{Availability/row| Retail | | unknown | | | Windows }}
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{{Availability/row| Retail | | Disc | {{DRM|StarForce|3.4.62.00}} |  | Windows }}
 +
{{Availability/row| GamersGate | second-sight | Steam | | | Windows }}
 +
{{Availability/row| Gamesplanet | 5173-1 | Steam | | | Windows }}
 +
{{Availability/row| GOG.com | second_sight | DRM-free | | | Windows }}
 +
{{Availability/row| Humble | second-sight | Steam | | | Windows }}
 +
{{Availability/row| Steam | 11550 | Steam | | | Windows }}
 +
}}
 +
 
 +
==Essential improvements==
 +
===[https://www.patreon.com/user?u=44312848 Peixoto's patch]===
 +
{{ii}} Forces the game to run at high resolutions without shrinking the HUD\Menus.
 +
{{++}} Fixes [[#Rendering artifacts and missing effects|rendering artifacts]] when running the game at resolutions '''higher''' than 1080p.
 +
{{--}} Not compatible with custom overlay programs such as RTSS and Afterburner.
 +
{{Fixbox|description=Installation instructions|ref=|fix=
 +
# Download the latest version of the [https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApHOE-Ru-xkGgZkOtWEHQyuRYq2NWQ?e=VD0U6w Peixoto's patch].
 +
# Extract the archive and run the {{File|Peixoto.bat}} file.
 +
# In the window that opens, select '''Second Sight''' from the list on the left.
 +
# Click on the '''Play''' button, and point to the {{File|secondsight}} executable in the installation directory.
 +
# (Optional) Create a shortcut by clicking on the '''Create shortcut''' button. This will allow the game to be launched without having to launch Peixoto user interface.
 +
}}
 +
 
 +
===Skip intro videos===
 +
{{Fixbox|description=Instructions|ref=<ref>{{Refcheck|user=Mars icecream|date=2018-2}}</ref>|fix=
 +
# Go to {{folder|{{p|game}}}}.
 +
# Delete or rename the {{folder|trailers}} folder.
 
}}
 
}}
  
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===Configuration file(s) location===
 
===Configuration file(s) location===
 
{{Game data|
 
{{Game data|
{{Game data/row|Windows|}}
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{{Game data/config|Windows|{{p|game}}\secondsight.cfg}}
 
}}
 
}}
  
 
===Save game data location===
 
===Save game data location===
 
{{Game data|
 
{{Game data|
{{Game data/row|Windows|}}
+
{{Game data/saves|Windows|{{p|game}}\profiles\}}
 
}}
 
}}
  
 
===[[Glossary:Save game cloud syncing|Save game cloud syncing]]===
 
===[[Glossary:Save game cloud syncing|Save game cloud syncing]]===
 
{{Save game cloud syncing
 
{{Save game cloud syncing
|origin               =  
+
|discord                  =
|origin notes          =  
+
|discord notes            =
|square enix          =  
+
|epic games launcher      =
|square enix notes     =  
+
|epic games launcher notes =
|steam cloud           = false
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|gog galaxy               = true
|steam cloud notes    =  
+
|gog galaxy notes          =  
|uplay                =  
+
|origin                    =  
|uplay notes           =  
+
|origin notes             =  
 +
|steam cloud               = false
 +
|steam cloud notes        =
 +
|ubisoft connect          =
 +
|ubisoft connect notes    =  
 +
|xbox cloud                =  
 +
|xbox cloud notes         =  
 
}}
 
}}
  
==Video settings==
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==Video==
{{Video settings
+
{{Image|Second Sight video settings.jpg|Video settings.}}
|wsgf link                  = http://www.wsgf.org/dr/second-sight
+
{{Video
 +
|wsgf link                  = https://www.wsgf.org/dr/second-sight
 
|widescreen wsgf award      = unsupported
 
|widescreen wsgf award      = unsupported
 
|multimonitor wsgf award    = unsupported
 
|multimonitor wsgf award    = unsupported
 
|ultrawidescreen wsgf award = incomplete
 
|ultrawidescreen wsgf award = incomplete
 
|4k ultra hd wsgf award    = incomplete
 
|4k ultra hd wsgf award    = incomplete
|widescreen resolution      = hackable
+
|widescreen resolution      = limited
|widescreen resolution notes= Use [https://thirteenag.github.io/wfp#secondsight ThirteenAG's fix]
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|widescreen resolution notes= See [[#Widescreen resolution|Widescreen resolution]].
 
|multimonitor              = unknown
 
|multimonitor              = unknown
 
|multimonitor notes        =  
 
|multimonitor notes        =  
 
|ultrawidescreen            = unknown
 
|ultrawidescreen            = unknown
 
|ultrawidescreen notes      =  
 
|ultrawidescreen notes      =  
|4k ultra hd                = unknown
+
|4k ultra hd                = limited
|4k ultra hd notes          =  
+
|4k ultra hd notes          = Only GOG release supports 4K resolution via in-game video settings.<ref name="Radishface20230404">{{Refcheck|user=Radishface|date=2023-04-04|comment=Comment (optional)}}</ref>
 
|fov                        = hackable
 
|fov                        = hackable
|fov notes                  = Although FoV can be increased with the [https://thirteenag.github.io/wfp#secondsight widescreen fix], it's recommended to actually lower it to prevent glitches
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|fov notes                  = Use [https://thirteenag.github.io/wfp#secondsight ThirteenAG's fix].
|windowed                  = unknown
+
|windowed                  = hackable
|windowed notes            =  
+
|windowed notes            = See [[#Windowed|Windowed]].
|borderless windowed        = unknown
+
|borderless windowed        = hackable
|borderless windowed notes  =  
+
|borderless windowed notes  = See [[#Windowed|Windowed]].
|anisotropic                = unknown
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|anisotropic                = false
 
|anisotropic notes          =  
 
|anisotropic notes          =  
|antialiasing              = unknown
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|antialiasing              = false
 
|antialiasing notes        =  
 
|antialiasing notes        =  
|vsync                      = unknown
+
|upscaling                  = false
 +
|upscaling tech            =
 +
|upscaling notes            =
 +
|vsync                      = always on
 
|vsync notes                =  
 
|vsync notes                =  
|60 fps                    = unknown
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|60 fps                    = true
 
|60 fps notes              =  
 
|60 fps notes              =  
|120 fps                    = unknown
+
|120 fps                    = false
|120 fps notes              =  
+
|120 fps notes              = Capped at 60 FPS.
|color blind                = unknown
+
|hdr                        = false
 +
|hdr notes                  =  
 +
|color blind                = false
 
|color blind notes          =  
 
|color blind notes          =  
 
}}
 
}}
  
==Input settings==
+
===[[Glossary:Widescreen resolution|Widescreen resolution]]===
{{Input settings
+
{{ii}} GOG release supports widescreen resolutions via in-game video settings<ref name="Radishface20230404" />.
|key remap                = unknown
+
{{--}} Anything higher than 1080p may cause artifacts{{cn}}.
 +
 
 +
{{Fixbox|description=Use [https://thirteenag.github.io/wfp#secondsight ThirteenAG's fix]}|ref=<ref name="AlphaYellow_NC" />}
 +
 
 +
{{Fixbox|description=Manually edit configuration file|ref=<ref name="sketltal20230924">{{Refcheck|user=Mr skeltal|date=2023-09-24}}</ref>|fix=
 +
# Go to {{folder|{{p|game}}}}.
 +
# Open {{file|secondsight.cfg}} with a text editor.
 +
# Modify the values {{code|scr_height}} and {{code|scr_width}} to the desired resolution.
 +
}}
 +
 
 +
===[[Glossary:Windowed|Windowed]]===
 +
{{Fixbox|description=Edit manually "secondsight.cfg"|ref=<ref name="sketltal20230924" />|fix=
 +
# Go to {{folder|{{p|game}}}}.
 +
# Open {{file|secondsight.cfg}} with a text editor.
 +
# Find the value {{code|scr_fullscreen}} and set it from {{code|T}} to {{code|F}}.
 +
}}
 +
 
 +
{{Fixbox|description=Force windowed mode|ref=<ref name="AlphaYellow_NC" />{{Refcheck|user=AlphaYellow|date=2024-04-08}}</ref>|fix=
 +
# Install [https://thirteenag.github.io/wfp#secondsight ThirteenAG's fix].
 +
# Go to {{folder|{{p|game}}}}.
 +
# Create {{file|wndmode.ini}}.
 +
 
 +
'''Notes'''
 +
{{--}} Causes graphical issues.<ref>{{Refurl|url=https://github.com/ThirteenAG/WidescreenFixesPack/issues/954|title=Second Sight running windowed (wndmode.ini) breaks a particle effect (ThirteenAG's WidescreenFixesPack Github)|date=2021-04-17}}</ref>
 +
{{--}} Does not work with the GOG release. See [[#Game does not launch|Game does not launch]] section.
 +
}}
 +
 
 +
{{Fixbox|description=Use [[Glossary:Windowed#DxWnd|DxWnd]]|ref=<ref>{{Refcheck|user=LukasThyWalls|date=2022-04-05}}</ref>|fix=
 +
{{ii}} If some translucent effects (during Projection and Charm powers in main character, for example) look completely invisible, check [[#Anti-aliasing (AA)|Anti-aliasing (AA)]] settings.<br>When forcing AA via the Nvidia Control panel, set the '''Antialiasing - Mode''' property to <code>Enhance the application setting</code><ref>{{Refurl|url=https://sourceforge.net/p/dxwnd/discussion/general/thread/21c9f52694/#59b4|title=Second Sight - With Projection and Charm, the character is invisible - Comment 2022-04-30|date=2022-04-30}}</ref>.
 +
}}
 +
 
 +
==Input==
 +
{{Image|Second Sight general control settings.jpg|Control settings.}}
 +
{{Image|Second Sight keybinds movement.jpg|Movement keybindings.}}
 +
{{Image|Second Sight keybinds combat.jpg|Combat keybindings.}}
 +
{{Image|Second Sight keybinds actions.jpg|Actions keybindings.}}
 +
{{Input
 +
|key remap                = true
 
|key remap notes          =  
 
|key remap notes          =  
|acceleration option      = unknown
+
|acceleration option      = false
 
|acceleration option notes =  
 
|acceleration option notes =  
|mouse sensitivity        = unknown
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|mouse sensitivity        = true
 
|mouse sensitivity notes  =  
 
|mouse sensitivity notes  =  
|mouse menu                = unknown
+
|mouse menu                = true
 
|mouse menu notes          =  
 
|mouse menu notes          =  
|invert mouse y-axis      = unknown
+
|invert mouse y-axis      = true
 
|invert mouse y-axis notes =  
 
|invert mouse y-axis notes =  
 +
|touchscreen              = false
 +
|touchscreen notes        =
 
|controller support        = unknown
 
|controller support        = unknown
|controller support notes  =  
+
|controller support notes  = XInput is not supported.
 
|full controller          = unknown
 
|full controller          = unknown
 
|full controller notes    =  
 
|full controller notes    =  
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|invert controller y-axis  = unknown
 
|invert controller y-axis  = unknown
 
|invert controller y-axis notes=  
 
|invert controller y-axis notes=  
|touchscreen               = unknown
+
|xinput controllers        = unknown
|touchscreen notes        =  
+
|xinput controllers notes  =
|button prompts           = unknown
+
|xbox prompts              = unknown
|button prompts notes     =  
+
|xbox prompts notes        =
 +
|impulse triggers          = unknown
 +
|impulse triggers notes    =
 +
|dualshock 4               = unknown
 +
|dualshock 4 notes        =
 +
|dualshock prompts        = unknown
 +
|dualshock prompts notes  =
 +
|light bar support        = unknown
 +
|light bar support notes  =
 +
|dualshock 4 modes        = unknown
 +
|dualshock 4 modes notes  =
 +
|tracked motion controllers= unknown
 +
|tracked motion controllers notes =
 +
|tracked motion prompts    = unknown
 +
|tracked motion prompts notes =
 +
|other controllers         = unknown
 +
|other controllers notes  =  
 +
|other button prompts     = unknown
 +
|other button prompts notes=  
 
|controller hotplug        = unknown
 
|controller hotplug        = unknown
 
|controller hotplug notes  =  
 
|controller hotplug notes  =  
 
|haptic feedback          = unknown
 
|haptic feedback          = unknown
 
|haptic feedback notes    =  
 
|haptic feedback notes    =  
|light bar support        = unknown
+
|simultaneous input        = unknown
|light bar support notes   =  
+
|simultaneous input notes  =
 +
|steam input api          = unknown
 +
|steam input api notes    =
 +
|steam hook input          = unknown
 +
|steam hook input notes    =
 +
|steam input presets      = unknown
 +
|steam input presets notes =
 +
|steam controller prompts  = unknown
 +
|steam controller prompts notes =
 +
|steam cursor detection    = unknown
 +
|steam cursor detection notes =  
 
}}
 
}}
  
==Audio settings==
+
==Audio==
{{Audio settings
+
{{Image|Second Sight audio settings.jpg|Audio settings.}}
|separate volume          = unknown
+
{{Audio
|separate volume notes    =  
+
|separate volume          = true
|surround sound          = unknown
+
|separate volume notes    = Music, Sound Effects, Voices.
|surround sound notes    =  
+
|surround sound          = true
|subtitles                = unknown
+
|surround sound notes    = 5.1.
 +
|subtitles                = true
 
|subtitles notes          =  
 
|subtitles notes          =  
|closed captions          = unknown
+
|closed captions          = false
 
|closed captions notes    =  
 
|closed captions notes    =  
|mute on focus lost      = unknown
+
|mute on focus lost      = true
 
|mute on focus lost notes =  
 
|mute on focus lost notes =  
|eax support              =  
+
|eax support              = false
|eax support notes        =  
+
|eax support notes        =
 +
|royalty free audio        = unknown
 +
|royalty free audio notes  =
 +
}}
 +
 
 +
{{L10n|content=
 +
{{L10n/switch
 +
|language  = English
 +
|interface = true
 +
|audio    = true
 +
|subtitles = true
 +
|notes    =
 +
|fan      =
 +
}}
 +
{{L10n/switch
 +
|language  = French
 +
|interface = true
 +
|audio    = unknown
 +
|subtitles = true
 +
|notes    =
 +
|fan      =
 +
}}
 +
{{L10n/switch
 +
|language  = German
 +
|interface = true
 +
|audio    = unknown
 +
|subtitles = true
 +
|notes    =
 +
|fan      =
 +
}}
 +
{{L10n/switch
 +
|language  = Italian
 +
|interface = true
 +
|audio    = false
 +
|subtitles = true
 +
|notes    =
 +
|fan      =
 +
}}
 +
{{L10n/switch
 +
|language  = Spanish
 +
|interface = true
 +
|audio    = false
 +
|subtitles = true
 +
|notes    =
 +
|fan      =
 +
}}
 +
}}
 +
 
 +
==Issues unresolved==
 +
===Decals are rendered incorrectly===
 +
{{ii}} Some decals - such as bloody footsteps - get offset when panning the camera.
 +
{{--}} The issue does not go away even after disabling '''Draw Decals''' property in the video settings menu.
 +
 
 +
==Issues fixed==
 +
===Low frame rate===
 +
{{ii}} The game may initially run at a low frame rate, such as 38 FPS.
 +
 
 +
{{Fixbox|description=Restart the computer|ref=<ref>{{Refurl|url=https://steamcommunity.com/app/11550/discussions/0/828924672583344773/|title=Shame it runs at 20fps :: Second Sight General Discussions|date=May 2023}}</ref>|fix=
 +
* Restarting the computer fixes the low frame rate issue.
 +
}}
 +
 
 +
===Black screen with some resolutions===
 +
{{ii}} Setting the resolution higher than 1024x768 using the in-game options may result in a black screen.
 +
{{++}} Does not affect the GOG release.<ref>{{Refcheck|user=Radishface|date=2023-04-04|comment=Comment (optional)}}</ref>
 +
 
 +
{{Fixbox|description=Use widescreen fix|ref=<ref name="AlphaYellow_NC" />|fix=
 +
* Install [https://thirteenag.github.io/wfp#secondsight ThirteenAG's fix].
 +
}}
 +
 
 +
===Run the game at screen refresh rate===
 +
{{ii}} Although the in-game graphics option allows the selection of 85 Hz, the game will not run higher than 60 Hz.
 +
 
 +
{{Fixbox|description=Set refresh rate manually|ref=<ref name="AlphaYellow_NC" />|fix=
 +
# Go to {{folder|{{p|game}}}}.
 +
# Open {{file|secondsight.cfg}}.
 +
# Change <code>scr_hz</code> to the screen refresh rate.
 +
}}
 +
 
 +
===Game does not launch===
 +
{{--}} [https://thirteenag.github.io/wfp#secondsight ThirteenAG's widescreen fix] is not compatible with the GOG release.<ref>{{Refurl|url=https://github.com/ThirteenAG/WidescreenFixesPack/issues/1259|title=Second Sight Doesn't launch with asi loader dinput8.dll - GitHub|date=2023-04-04}}</ref>
 +
{{++}} GOG release features native widescreen support via in-game settings. No additional patches are needed.<ref>{{Refcheck|user=Radishface|date=2023-04-04|comment=Comment (optional)}}</ref>
 +
 
 +
{{Fixbox|description=Uninstall ThirteenAG's widescreen fix|ref=<ref name="AlphaYellow_NC" />|fix=
 +
# Restore the original {{file|dinput8.dll}} in {{folder|{{p|game}}}}.
 +
# Use the in-game video settings to set a widescreen resolution.
 +
}}
 +
 
 +
===Rendering artifacts and missing effects===
 +
{{ii}} Various graphics artifacts are present when running the game at resolutions '''higher''' than 1080p.
 +
 
 +
{{Fixbox|description=Install Peixoto's patch|ref=|fix=
 +
# Download the latest version of the [https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApHOE-Ru-xkGgZkOtWEHQyuRYq2NWQ?e=VD0U6w Peixoto's patch].
 +
# Extract the archive and run the {{File|Peixoto.bat}} file.
 +
# In the window that opens, select '''Second Sight''' from the list on the left.
 +
# Click on the '''Play''' button, and point to the {{File|secondsight}} executable in the installation directory.
 +
# (Optional) Create a shortcut by clicking on the '''Create shortcut''' button. This will allow the game to be launched without having to launch Peixoto patch's user interface.
 +
}}
 +
 
 +
===Game doesn't recognize dgVoodoo 2===
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Latest revision as of 17:00, 8 April 2024

Second Sight
Second Sight cover
Developers
Free Radical Design
Publishers
Former Codemasters
Current THQ Nordic
Release dates
Windows February 4, 2005
Reception
Metacritic 73
IGDB 73
Taxonomy
Monetization One-time game purchase
Modes Singleplayer
Pacing Real-time
Perspectives Third-person
Controls Direct control
Genres Action, Shooter, Stealth, TPS
Art styles Realistic
Themes Contemporary, Europe, North America, Supernatural
Second Sight on HowLongToBeat
Second Sight on IGDB
Second Sight guide on StrategyWiki
Second Sight on MobyGames
Second Sight on Wikipedia

Second Sight is a singleplayer third-person action, shooter, stealth and TPS game.

General information

GOG.com Community Discussions
GOG.com Support Page
Steam Community Discussions

Availability

Source DRM Notes Keys OS
Retail
Disc check (requires the CD/DVD in the drive to play)
StarForce 3.4.62.00 DRM[Note 1]
Windows
GamersGate
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Windows
Gamesplanet logo.svg
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Windows
GOG.com
DRM-free
Windows
Humble Store
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Windows
Steam
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Windows
StarForce DRM for this game does not work on modern versions of Windows (see above for affected versions).

Essential improvements

Peixoto's patch

Forces the game to run at high resolutions without shrinking the HUD\Menus.
Fixes rendering artifacts when running the game at resolutions higher than 1080p.
Not compatible with custom overlay programs such as RTSS and Afterburner.
Installation instructions
  1. Download the latest version of the Peixoto's patch.
  2. Extract the archive and run the Peixoto.bat file.
  3. In the window that opens, select Second Sight from the list on the left.
  4. Click on the Play button, and point to the secondsight executable in the installation directory.
  5. (Optional) Create a shortcut by clicking on the Create shortcut button. This will allow the game to be launched without having to launch Peixoto user interface.

Skip intro videos

Instructions[3]
  1. Go to <path-to-game>.
  2. Delete or rename the trailers folder.

Game data

Configuration file(s) location

System Location
Windows <path-to-game>\secondsight.cfg[Note 2]
Steam Play (Linux) <Steam-folder>/steamapps/compatdata/11550/pfx/[Note 3]

Save game data location

System Location
Windows <path-to-game>\profiles\[Note 2]
Steam Play (Linux) <Steam-folder>/steamapps/compatdata/11550/pfx/[Note 3]

Save game cloud syncing

System Native Notes
GOG Galaxy
Steam Cloud

Video

Video settings.
Video settings.

Graphics feature State WSGF Notes
Widescreen resolution
See Widescreen resolution.
Multi-monitor
Ultra-widescreen
4K Ultra HD
Only GOG release supports 4K resolution via in-game video settings.[4]
Field of view (FOV)
Use ThirteenAG's fix.
Windowed
See Windowed.
Borderless fullscreen windowed
See Windowed.
Anisotropic filtering (AF)
See the glossary page for potential workarounds.
Anti-aliasing (AA)
See the glossary page for potential workarounds.
High-fidelity upscaling
See the glossary page for potential workarounds.
Vertical sync (Vsync)
See the glossary page for potential workarounds.
60 FPS
120+ FPS
Capped at 60 FPS.
High dynamic range display (HDR)
See the glossary page for potential alternatives.

Widescreen resolution

GOG release supports widescreen resolutions via in-game video settings[4].
Anything higher than 1080p may cause artifacts[citation needed].

{{Fixbox|description=Use ThirteenAG's fix}|ref=[5]}

Manually edit configuration file[6]
  1. Go to <path-to-game>.
  2. Open secondsight.cfg with a text editor.
  3. Modify the values scr_height and scr_width to the desired resolution.

Windowed

Edit manually "secondsight.cfg"[6]
  1. Go to <path-to-game>.
  2. Open secondsight.cfg with a text editor.
  3. Find the value scr_fullscreen and set it from T to F.
Force windowed mode[5]Verified by User:AlphaYellow on 2024-04-08</ref>
  1. Install ThirteenAG's fix.
  2. Go to <path-to-game>.
  3. Create wndmode.ini.

Notes

Causes graphical issues.[7]
Does not work with the GOG release. See Game does not launch section.
Use DxWnd[8]
If some translucent effects (during Projection and Charm powers in main character, for example) look completely invisible, check Anti-aliasing (AA) settings.
When forcing AA via the Nvidia Control panel, set the Antialiasing - Mode property to Enhance the application setting[9].

Input

Control settings.
Control settings.
Movement keybindings.
Movement keybindings.
Combat keybindings.
Combat keybindings.
Actions keybindings.
Actions keybindings.

Keyboard and mouse State Notes
Remapping
Mouse acceleration
Mouse sensitivity
Mouse input in menus
Mouse Y-axis inversion
Controller
Controller support
XInput is not supported.
Controller types

Audio

Audio settings.
Audio settings.

Audio feature State Notes
Separate volume controls
Music, Sound Effects, Voices.
Surround sound
5.1.
Subtitles
Closed captions
Mute on focus lost
Royalty free audio

Localizations

Language UI Audio Sub Notes
English
French
German
Italian
Spanish

Issues unresolved

Decals are rendered incorrectly

Some decals - such as bloody footsteps - get offset when panning the camera.
The issue does not go away even after disabling Draw Decals property in the video settings menu.

Issues fixed

Low frame rate

The game may initially run at a low frame rate, such as 38 FPS.
Restart the computer[10]
  • Restarting the computer fixes the low frame rate issue.

Black screen with some resolutions

Setting the resolution higher than 1024x768 using the in-game options may result in a black screen.
Does not affect the GOG release.[11]
Use widescreen fix[5]

Run the game at screen refresh rate

Although the in-game graphics option allows the selection of 85 Hz, the game will not run higher than 60 Hz.
Set refresh rate manually[5]
  1. Go to <path-to-game>.
  2. Open secondsight.cfg.
  3. Change scr_hz to the screen refresh rate.

Game does not launch

ThirteenAG's widescreen fix is not compatible with the GOG release.[12]
GOG release features native widescreen support via in-game settings. No additional patches are needed.[13]
Uninstall ThirteenAG's widescreen fix[5]
  1. Restore the original dinput8.dll in <path-to-game>.
  2. Use the in-game video settings to set a widescreen resolution.

Rendering artifacts and missing effects

Various graphics artifacts are present when running the game at resolutions higher than 1080p.
Install Peixoto's patch
  1. Download the latest version of the Peixoto's patch.
  2. Extract the archive and run the Peixoto.bat file.
  3. In the window that opens, select Second Sight from the list on the left.
  4. Click on the Play button, and point to the secondsight executable in the installation directory.
  5. (Optional) Create a shortcut by clicking on the Create shortcut button. This will allow the game to be launched without having to launch Peixoto patch's user interface.

Game doesn't recognize dgVoodoo 2

Create a file named secondsight.exe.local in <path-to-game>[5]

Other information

API

Technical specs Supported Notes
Direct3D 9.0c [14]
Executable 32-bit 64-bit Notes
Windows

System requirements

Windows
Minimum Recommended
Operating system (OS) 2000, XP
Processor (CPU) Intel Pentium III
AMD Athlon 1.0 GHz
System memory (RAM) 256 MB
Hard disk drive (HDD) 1 GB
Video card (GPU) Nvidia GeForce 3 Ti200
ATI Radeon 8500
DirectX 9.0c compatible
Sound (audio device) DirectX 9 compatible
Supported graphics cards: ATi Radeon 8500, 9000, 9100, 9200, 9500, 9600, 9700, 9800, X800; nVidia GeForce 3 Ti200/Ti500, GeForce 4 MX420/MX440, Ti4200/Ti4600, GeForce FX5200/FX5600/FX5700/ FX5800/FX5900/FX5950 GeForce 6800 GT
Not compatible with Windows 98/ME
Not compatible with all integrated sound/graphics solutions (inc. Laptops)


Notes

  1. This version of StarForce DRM does not work on Windows 8.1, Windows 10, or Windows 11.[1][2] For supported versions of Windows the StarForce driver may need to be updated manually using SFUPDATE.
  2. 2.0 2.1 When running this game without elevated privileges (Run as administrator option), write operations against a location below %PROGRAMFILES%, %PROGRAMDATA%, or %WINDIR% might be redirected to %LOCALAPPDATA%\VirtualStore on Windows Vista and later (more details).
  3. 3.0 3.1 File/folder structure within this directory reflects the path(s) listed for Windows and/or Steam game data (use Wine regedit to access Windows registry paths). Games with Steam Cloud support may store data in ~/.steam/steam/userdata/<user-id>/11550/ in addition to or instead of this directory. The app ID (11550) may differ in some cases. Treat backslashes as forward slashes. See the glossary page for details.

References

  1. Windows 8.1 support - StarForce Support
  2. Windows 10 support - StarForce Support
  3. Verified by User:Mars icecream on 2018-2
  4. 4.0 4.1 Verified by User:Radishface on 2023-04-04
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4 5.5 Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; no text was provided for refs named AlphaYellow_NC
  6. 6.0 6.1 Verified by User:Mr skeltal on 2023-09-24
  7. Second Sight running windowed (wndmode.ini) breaks a particle effect (ThirteenAG's WidescreenFixesPack Github) - last accessed on 2021-04-17
  8. Verified by User:LukasThyWalls on 2022-04-05
  9. Second Sight - With Projection and Charm, the character is invisible - Comment 2022-04-30 - last accessed on 2022-04-30
  10. Shame it runs at 20fps :: Second Sight General Discussions - last accessed on May 2023
  11. Verified by User:Radishface on 2023-04-04
  12. Second Sight Doesn't launch with asi loader dinput8.dll - GitHub - last accessed on 2023-04-04
  13. Verified by User:Radishface on 2023-04-04
  14. Verified by User:AlphaYellow on 2024-04-08
    According to System Informer, the game loads d3d9.dll. dgVoodoo2's traces point to Direct3D 9 (e.g: "Direct3DDevice9").